outperformers? >> well, i think they'll lag behind. when i was on the program last friday, i made the distinction of a north-south divide, if you like. even the netherlands, surprisingly, were lagging behind. i think that, you know, generally, they'll be pulled along by the leaders, you know, france and germany, and that we'll see a gradual improvement. what has to be a worry, i think, for the leaders in the euro zone economies is the strength of the euro. and i think if we saw the euro continue to strengthen against the dollar, that will certainly start to become a worry for exporters. >> neal, ben bernanke will probably be the only guy in jackson hole, wyoming, wearing a suit. what do you make of this day? >> certainly all eyes are on the jackson hole symposium. it's a very important gathering.